( Please read the post below this before reading this.. the connection)
Then there was dis conversation that got me thinking more about it.
vaidehi: dont u talk about my akshay kumar
prateek: your akshay kumar.. lol.. i dinno u wer so sensitive abt Him..
vaidehi: listen ... u cannot act a percent of what he does
prateek: u've not seen me acting dear lol??
vaidehi:its not just him its anyone, u cant do a bit of what they do so u have no right to comment
prateek: and how many of the critics who review the movie or talk abt them kno how to act
vaidehi:you just say whether u like it or no, not whether other person can or not
prateek:so yea i dint like the movie and i dint like His acting so i did comment ..
vaidehi: excuse me ... lemme tell you. we have been studying this and .... this is what we are told in class 'critics or reviewers are supposed to just review the movie and nt give their personal opinion, not inspire people to go watch or pull down the movie so that they dont watch its unethical
vaidehi: acha ... n m not fighting with you. i just feel its wrong, it hurts the emotion of someone who really works hard upon it
prateek:This is how it works... dear in business schools they teach u abt business etHics and principles but how many of dem go up with their ethics intact
prateek:" criticsm always hurts"
vaidehi: are you saying its cool to not follow ethics?
prateek: its not cool.. but its a part and parcel...
prateek: if u praise a movie and u inspire ppl to go and watch it.. then its the other way round too..
vaidehi: no are you saying its ok to do that
prateek: m tellin u naa... its a practical world out there.. a mean world.. u dont do at places u're required to u'll be the one standing alone..
prateek:move with the world.. not against it..!!
vaidehi: i dint know you think that way
prateek: i tHink practical.. and now dun put me on a spot and project me as a bad guy o sometHing.. who gives a fuck abt ethics and principles.. i have dose.. but u have to ignore dem at places
vaidehi: but you are wrng, and how muchever you people try or do whatever ... being on the wrong side will always pay you the wrong way back
prateek: i agree..!!
vaidehi: no you dont have to
vaidehi:u ignore them only if you want to fit in
vaidehi:i never ignore my principals ... to hell with people if i have to.... i'll rather live a life all alone then sacrifice my principals for whatver
prateek:good for u if it works for u..!!
vaidehi:really m shocked to hear this from you
vaidehi: listen .... i know and i have seen people who work up the right way
vaidehi:i dont know how to react to this
vaidehi: like it was cool till, you saying you dont like an a particular actor ... its cool ... whatever i think is what i think na u can think ur way
prateek:lisen vaideHi.. nobody's a saint... and i am nobody..!!..u probably havent faced such sitiuations!!..wen u encounter some u'll come to kno.. how dirty it is..
vaidehi: but ........... about that ethics thing i dont know. like you dont have to follow the written rules but ..... you dont have to ignore them coz u have to achieve something. thats being mean and selfish and ... blaaaah
vaidehi: no i have faced many situations ... and even when i'll do, i wont whatever is right for whats wrong
prateek:u're awesome den!!..
vaidehi:achcha ... n its not about ur movies review ok its something else ...
prateek:duh i've not told u sometHing rilly non - existing phenomena..!!.. i'll forego my etHics and principles when it comes to people who do it themselves..
prateek:u're supposed to treat ppl as they are..
vaidehi: thats differnt
prateek:u play dirty with ppl who are dirty!!
prateek:i believe in karma ok..!!
prateek:give ppl what they give it to u..
prateek:and i guess.. u shud do da same..!!
prateek: to hell with tHinking abt ur etHics wen it comes to a person whos unetHical inside out..
prateek:wat say?
vaidehi:no i wud still follow ethics
vaidehi:i cannot forget what my parents taught me when i was 2 or 3 yr old
vaidehi:i dont know what to do if others wanna forget
now dis left me with a guilt pang...
i guess a long time to think abt all dis.. lets c what life has in store..!!
15 comments:
FUCK ME...
i shud change my orkut profile tht says...ari gold is GOD...
i shud change it to...ari gold is a God damn unethical midget...
wat say...prateek...dont we all wanna be like ari gold...n wen i say ari gold i mean REAL....lol
n u knw..this is ma opinion n i can be wrong...(as usual...) lol
i thot in the beginning of this convo u were real....by the end...u got..tht guilt pang n u mellowed down a bit..
i completely agree wid ur thots...
ur thots on how one has to be mean at times..one has to see...wat favors him..one has to see wat benefits him...n u knw all in all ...all this does require...not always...but sometimes a few sacrifices of ur beliefs and ur principles...!
ethics is wat a person individually believes is right!..they constitute his moral principles.
n u knw these principles change as u move forward in life...as rightly said by vyas...(i always thot tht this guy was a fuckin idiot..specially after 31st..but he made a fuckin good point) quote- "It all depends on the way you do it without hampering the society to such an extent."
not that i knw much abt life...but remember prateek i once told u..i hated the fact tht i dint teach ma students properly...the students who dint wanna learn..but i had no choice..i wanted their money..so although i hated it..i had to do it..tht is unethical..to a grt extent.. it is..but still i did it...not sayin i liked it...but had to do it...
n u knw...ur priorities change in life..n i probably wont eva do it again..until n unless ther is no way out...
we can debate argue n eat out each others brains...on this...but it all comes down to wat suits best..for u...
but wat i hav to tell u n vaidehi ove here...is js tht...
DONT PROMISE UR SELF THT I WILL NEVA DO IT..
DONT DO IT..ITS BAD...I HAV DONE IT..SO I M TELLIN U...I HAV DONE IT A LOT MORE TIMES...THAN THE EXAMPLE ABOVE...I HATED MYSELF AFTER THT...BUT WAT THE HELL...I STILL DID IT...
SO DONT PROMISE COZ...WEN U HAV TO ACT AGAINST...UR PROMISES THAN IT BECOMES UNETHICAL...N HURTS U...
so dont hurt urself...do the best u can..coz..happiness is more imp...than all of this.....
damn ...i can write...lol
malpani u bettah start thinkin for a name...lol....
I shall repeat..
I remember what my parents or any one taught me when i was 2 or 3 and how right it sounded then.
But now I may not follow it because the person in front of me is not following it.
how cool and manly is that wow!!
You dont have to be fooled but you dont have to fall either.
and ofcourse vikram each one to his own ... ofcourse
Till u dont hurt anyone its alright. Till your intentions are clean its alright.
My only point here is ... because the opposite person does it i have to do it THAT IS WRONG!
@vikram - well..u bet.. ari gold is GOD.. and obviously i wud love to be him.. but come on on a life's not a tv show and u cant crack wise ass remarks over here.. i guess after reading ur and vaidehi's comments i wud change the word UNETHICAL to MANIPULATIVE cos unethical is too harsh a word to use where u're just ignoring something and manipulating situation to get the ball in your court..obviously m not promising to anyone..!! i'll take it as it comes... and vikram i have a name..
oyeitsvikram... lol..!!
@ vaidehi - its not about doing because the other person is doing.. its about doing because the other person is doing it to you and if u sit quiet and say to urself.. no dats not the correct thing to do no matter what the person is doing to me.. then u'll stay back baby!!..
hurting or backstabing innocent ones and ones who have never hurt is something unethical but stone for a brick thrown at u.. is not unethical..!!
hey ...... u guys think a lot ......
i don know bout ethics n principles ...all i know is don eva do ne thin ta u think is worng n might make u feel guilty ...... be clear in ur conscience........n do wat eva u feel is right .... even if it means bein selfish sometimes..... or hurtin someone who deserves to be hurt .....so its as simple as ta maalpani .......... n this is somethin i have learned from u onli ......!!!!
wat n irony m teachin it bak to u ......./////
Boys ... you'll are dumb you'll cannot find deeper meanings in my words.
Well not doing what other does to you means avoiding the eye for an eye attitude.
you dont have to sit back and stay quiet. Obviously you speak up, i will be the most vocal in such situations but i wont do exactly what he does, i wont fall to his level.
I will maintain my dignity :P
ok hope you get it now. If not god help you'll
hai dude. as i was reading this post, i got the following message. quite relevant. m jus posting a forwarded text which i got n not my personal opinion. rest is upto u what to infer from this
"People are often unreasonable and self-centered; forgive them anyway.
If you are hones, people may cheat you; Be honest anyway.
If you find happiness, people may be jealous; Be happy anyway.
The good you do today maybe forgotten tomo; do good anyway.
the people you care for may not appreciate your affection, love them anyway.
Give to the world the best you have & it may never be enough; give your best anyway.
Cos in the end it is between you and HIM.. It was never between you and them anyway"
hey..kappy..dat was beautiful yaa..
rilly nice thot..!!
don escape saying that its a beautiful thought. use the thought n argue against it man. ur a management aspirant.
[b]prateek: i tHink practical.. and now dun put me on a spot and project me as a bad guy o sometHing.. who gives a fuck abt ethics and principles.. i have dose.. but u have to ignore dem at places[/b]
dont you think this is what raju would have done ?? the raju from satyam !
lol.. raju because of his selfish means dint care abt da company and satyam..
i am telling again dat its ok to ignore ur ethics wen u with people who are just doing dat to u..!!
anyway.. dis can go on and on yaar..
we can have a concrete discussion on dis wen we meet up..lol..
n yes management aspirant!!..haha
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